i really like her, okay. i do. but we've spent every minute outside of work together since we started dating. and i know her idea of dating is different from mine, but we're not married. i can't - i can't be the only one responsible for her happiness. i'll fuck up, and she deserves better
she has a life, though she has a dog and friends and a job
( after all, kimberly and sansa are friends. they spend time together, though maybe less now that she and baby have fallen into their patterns, but that's not been something that has surprised kimberly very much. it's the thing that happens when people start dating -- the honeymoon period. )
if you don't want to live together just say that, you know?
sure she has a life she has a job, but the moment she's not at it she's at mine she has a dog which she brings over to my apartment with her she has friends which she must not see very often since she's always with me
i sound ungrateful i know she's very special and she's amazing i just can't be responsible for everything she hinges her happiness on
( there's a bit of a delay on kimberly's end while she tries to figure out what to suggest. if she's honest, it just sounds like maybe sansa is being a little clingy for a hip millennial girlfriend, but it doesn't seem fair to blame her for that either. since, you know, sansa's neither hip nor a millennial... even if kimberly's been trying to slowly but surely drag her into the new century. )
when robbie and i first starting dating like actually dating
( because there was that whole messy period where they were hooking up but not actually Dating... )
i think i was pretty clingy too it's just a girl thing we get excited
it's just - i feel like there's a power imbalance she's used to like. being submissive to whoever she's with and not be able to have what she wants or tell anyone to fuck off and that's just not right, if she thinks she has to be at like, my beck and call
i don't think she thinks that though like any time i ask her if she wants to go to a movie or go dancing with us or whatever, she always says she wants to make sure you guys don't have plans i don't think she's worried you're gonna say no
she really likes you she just seemed upset that you didn't want her around
but see, that's the problem she thinks she has to defer to me and my thoughts and what i want or don't want to do she's not thinking 'oh yeah i want to do this' and just does it she doesn't have to ask my permission to live her life
you say that like you think i don't like her right back
you know i do the same thing, right? i check with robbie to make sure we don't have plans or that he didn't want to hang out before i go out with other people i'm not deferring to him or asking him if i can i just don't want to bail on him if we're supposed to do stuff or if he wanted to hang out with me
also, duh. i know you like her, dummy that's why i'm trying to help you not screw this up
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i promise
what's going on?
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i really like her, okay. i do. but we've spent every minute outside of work together since we started dating. and i know her idea of dating is different from mine, but we're not married. i can't - i can't be the only one responsible for her happiness. i'll fuck up, and she deserves better
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( but they've all fucked up at some point or another. they're human. they make mistakes. she's not holding it against him. )
i tried to tell you she didn't really get dating as a thing
but you can't just say 'go away' and expect her to understand you either
you guys need to still be your own people, i get it
she needs hobbies that aren't doing nice things for you
maybe say that nicely next time?
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i know, i was a dick, i just got
angry
it's not fair to her, i know
i'll apologize
i'll be better
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i don't want you to be upset or angry or whatever
i was worried about you
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i should have just walked away, but she probably would be just as upset about that
i'm fine. i took a drive, i'm at the beach. just taking a breath.
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i'd be pissed if you walked away from me too
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i was angry but i was still willing to explain
she's the one that clammed up and walked out
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but that's not the point
i don't want either of you to be upset
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too late for not being upset, but i don't think it's like. the end of the world, either. we'll talk it out, i'm sure
you've never got into fights with rob?
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and idk? we don't really fight
i think the maddest i ever got at him was when he wouldn't just ask me to the stupid dance
is that weird?
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i don't really fight with people either usually
it's just
it gets under my skin
i want her to have a life, she deserves one
it shouldn't revolve around me
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she has a dog and friends and a job
( after all, kimberly and sansa are friends. they spend time together, though maybe less now that she and baby have fallen into their patterns, but that's not been something that has surprised kimberly very much. it's the thing that happens when people start dating -- the honeymoon period. )
if you don't want to live together just say that, you know?
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i did say that and that's how this happened
sure she has a life
she has a job, but the moment she's not at it she's at mine
she has a dog which she brings over to my apartment with her
she has friends which she must not see very often since she's always with me
i sound ungrateful
i know she's very special and she's amazing
i just can't be responsible for everything she hinges her happiness on
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when robbie and i first starting dating
like actually dating
( because there was that whole messy period where they were hooking up but not actually Dating... )
i think i was pretty clingy too
it's just a girl thing
we get excited
it's nice to have somebody to take care of
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i'll talk to her about it, i know
it's just - i feel like there's a power imbalance
she's used to like. being submissive to whoever she's with
and not be able to have what she wants
or tell anyone to fuck off
and that's just not right, if she thinks she has to be at like, my beck and call
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like any time i ask her if she wants to go to a movie or go dancing with us or whatever, she always says she wants to make sure you guys don't have plans
i don't think she's worried you're gonna say no
she really likes you
she just seemed upset that you didn't want her around
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she thinks she has to defer to me and my thoughts and what i want or don't want to do
she's not thinking 'oh yeah i want to do this' and just does it
she doesn't have to ask my permission to live her life
you say that like you think i don't like her right back
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i check with robbie to make sure we don't have plans or that he didn't want to hang out before i go out with other people
i'm not deferring to him or asking him if i can
i just don't want to bail on him if we're supposed to do stuff or if he wanted to hang out with me
also, duh.
i know you like her, dummy
that's why i'm trying to help you not screw this up
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and i just need to put my thoughts in order, and then i'll sit down with sansa
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let me know how it goes
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speak later, kimbi
thanks for the pep talk